Friday, December 5, 2008

POST 101 MUMBAI ATTACKERS

Saturday Dec 06
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An interesting piece from the Internet about Mumbai - Taken from PURE ISLAM website at .za
http://www.pureislam.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=545&Itemid=37
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Mumbai Attackers “White Foreigners,” “Neatly Dressed” with “Blonde” and “Punkish” Hair
Source: IPPK

02 December 2008

From The Guardian:

One police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish centre told the Guardian the attackers were “white”, although this could mean they were paler-skinned Indians from the country’s north. (Or it could mean they were actually white, as the police officer himself said. - IL)

“I went into the building late last night,” he said. “I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back.

From The BBC

Cafe attack

Not far across town, Judith Rosta, a German teacher from Vienna, had completed a shoot for a music video for two Indian singers and was walking past the market at Colaba, the hip, touristy hub of posh south Mumbai, with her Russian girlfriend, Valentina.

She says she was buying papayas when she noticed three men on a motorcycle stopping on the road and taking out “big guns”.

“They wore white jeans and T-shirts. They were shouting, getting agitated and waved their guns around.

“I dropped my shopping and began walking away towards my hotel. Minutes later, a friend called up saying that there had been a bloody incident of firing in the area,” she says.

Leopold Cafe owner Farzed Jehani: ‘A grenade was thrown in to the restaurant’

Hours after the shooting at the Leopold Cafe, a cult city cafe and a favourite hangout of foreigners and locals alike, the place smelt of stale beer and bleaching powder.

Broken crockery from a market stall lay strewn on the sidewalk. Fresh blood stains on the bullet-pocked wall were mixed with the old betel- leaf spit stains.

Locals say the orgy of killings in Mumbai began here. Three men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing.

Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, says he saw at least two men who started the firing outside the Leopold Cafe.

He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting.

“They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,” says Mr Amir.

As the two girls fell near the cafe, he saw the two men quickening their steps towards the Taj Mahal hotel further up the road.

A few minutes later, gunfire was heard from the hotel, and much later, Mr Amir heard that gunmen had taken guests hostage.

Surely these are significant reports? The recounting of multiple attackers as white foreigners and men with blonde and punkish hair should have merit as a significant news story, should it not? One must ask then, why is it being ignored?"

MY COMMENT (MC):
Problem is my only source is BBCNN & no radio or TV from MUMBAI itself...
The GENUINE INVESTIGATORS must be asked to TEST if the blood of all the attackers dead or alive are positive for DRUGs like methampethamine or COCAINE or whatever... This DATA will almost 50% determine their TRUE IDENTITIES...

EITHER THE ATTACKERS WERE FIDAYEEN MUSLIM FIGHTERS (=GENUINE MUJs) OR DRUG-CRAZED ADDICTS (=TERRORISTS)
BUT NOT BOTH
ONE AND ONLY ONE OF THE TWO POSSIBILITIES!

INDIA VS PAK or SECULARIST VS JIHADIST or THIRD FORCE VS INDO-PAK???

TMNP

POST 100

5:32 AM Dec6 @Home

So many things have happened in just a span of 2?weeks... I wanted to comment on a whole lot of global issues like US AUTO BAILOUT (Repeating the same mistake), MUMBAI ATTACKS (INDO VS PAK or US neocon parting shot for OBAMA or Brit UNIVERSAL WAR or SECULARIST vs JIHADIST etc etc)

Visited some MUSLIM friends whom I have not seen for a decade... SOME EYE-OPENING/POPPING DISCOVERIES...
MAYBE I should write a book "THE STRANGE STORY OF JAMAAL"
I was "in the thick of events" without my willing it!

For the meantime:
Taken from "The Relevant Mason" Relevant Masonic Philosophies in a Post Modern World" regarding SECRECY...
I have always believed and still believe that SECRECY is ESSENTIALLY EVIL...

I quote from the CHRISTIAN BIBLE:
John 3:20-21 (New International Version)

"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

http://www.therelevantmason.com/2007/11/there-are-many-different-groups.html
Shown with this text is an image of a nose-closed lip with a ssssh finger similar to the logo of a MOTEL here in Metro Manila (For short-time trysts)
Secrecy and Faith
"There are many different groups, evangelical and fundamentalist Christian groups, conspiracy theorist, self proclaimed moralist all screaming that secrecy is evil and nothing good need remain a secret. Now for the Christian groups claiming such, never mind that the most ancient translations of the Bible provide that Jesus taught his disciples “secrets” and his “secret” teachings such as in Matthew 13, “The disciples came to him and asked, ‘Why do you speak to the people in parables?’ He replied, ‘The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.’”

This country was formed because of the secret meetings of likeminded men working together for change to bring freedom to the people from under an oppressive king. The Underground Railroad operated in secret to remove men, women, and children from the bondage of slavery. There are a number of instances throughout history, when clearly; the protections of secrecy are evident. Yet, we have our detractors claiming that nothing “good” need be done in secret.
Here is what they are missing. Secrecy breeds trust and courage. There are many reasons we may love our spouses, but believing we can share anything with them is an important aspect to a healthy relationship. The idea that your closest companion will not share your private moments with anyone else is what allows you to trust them. The idea that we can trust them gives of the courage to share with them. This is the basis of the secrecy of Masonry.

In a world where everyone cannot line up fast enough to share their deepest, darkest moments on television for all to see, when peoples most intimate moments end up as the next video download on the Internet, when you share with a friend and before you leave the room, the information has been text messaged or e-mailed to someone not intended to hear it, Masonry teaches the value of a secret.

When the leaders of the Church claim there should be no secrecy, what they are really claiming is that they fear they would not be able to manipulate information if they did not have access to it. The Earth being round was a secret because the Church locked up the men who professed the hard science behind it. That man can attain inner peace without the intervention of a man in a white robe still needs to be a secret in some circles less you are ostracized in your local church community.

Sometimes we forget how valuable closing our mouths and keeping them that way can be. Listening is often an unintended consequence of maintaining secrecy and, low and behold, we even learn something here and there.

Lastly, trust and courage are the ingredients of faith. There would be no birth of faith without the establishment of secrecy.

The power of the secret is the power of faith."

So what I have here are two opposing views from two NON-MUSLIM groups (FREEMASONs & BIBLICAL CHRISTIANS)...
Whom should I side with? This is quite a daunting task & not easy to answer with a single yes or no true or false or even a one page webpage... So I will just talktalk...

I have read that even FREEMASONS believe in a god but that they are basically deists (NOT theists). Of course others claim they are worshipers of Lucifer (the Devil). Honestly, I do not know the TRUTH about them. The major claim is that FREEMASONs are actually the GRAND CONSPIRATORS behind all world events. But it seems they are no longer a unified group and may even be fighting among themselves. HISTORICALLY, the U.S.A. was founded by freemasons. Also what is known as PHILIPPINES had FREEMASONs for its founders-heroes like Rizal, Bonifacio, Aguinaldo, & most of its presidents(?) [But I have seen a photo of MAGSAYSAY in a Catholic parade...]

One FUNNY fact about the PHILIPPINES is that its founders were ANTI-CATHOLIC FREEMASONs and yet the masses of so-called "FILIPINOS" apparently have forgotten this FACT so that now the Roman Catholic church through its bishops and CBCP? are easily violating the separation of church & state principle with their clearly political statements and maneuverings... Should the freemasons commence on another round of conspiratorial cabal a la 1890's or so? But will the masses side with them? Or are they in cahoots with the prelates?

How about people like me who identify with the MUSLIMs who apparently are VICTIMS of both Crusader CATHOLICS and Zionist FREEMASONS, how should we position ourselves vis-a-vis the CHRISTIANS (PROTESTANTS, CATHOLICS, GREEK ORTHODOX etc etc) and the FREEMASONS, the SOCIALISTS, FEMINISTS, etc etc etc?

A REAL MUSLIM IS POLITICALLY CORRECT...

TMNP